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And remember, we can talk about making a difference, we can make a difference, or we can do both. — Debbie Millman

On this episode, Debbie talks with Robin Petravic and Catherine Bailey about their qualifications to run Heath Ceramics. "I threw a pot in high school … it was pretty good;" why they don't advertise: "It's better to be interesting than to hire someone to make you sound interesting when you're not;" and their aim to build a holistic business model, one that integrates designing, making, and selling. design

Robin Petravic & Catherine Bailey

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