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And remember, we can talk about making a difference, we can make a difference, or we can do both. — Debbie Millman

Eddie Opara was born in Wandsworth, London in 1972. He studied graphic design at the London College of Printing and Yale University, where he received his MFA in 1997. He began his career as a designer at ATG and Imaginary Forces and worked as a senior designer/art director at 2x4 before establishing his own studio, The Map Office, in 2005. He joined Pentagram's New York office as partner in October 2010.In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Eddie Opara discusses his Jesuit education, being part of a collaborative movement, the difference between original work and open sourced work, accepting a job from Michael Bierut while in the bathroom, creating the Brooklyn Museum brand at 2x4, and working at Pentagram. (03.04.11)