In this episode, Debbie speaks with guitarist Kaki King about a childhood rooted in music, how busking in the New York City subway jump-started her career, collaborating with John Maeda and Giorgia Lupi, and overcoming addiction—and how it led to an incredible renaissance in her output.

And remember, we can talk about making a difference, we can make a difference, or we can do both. — Debbie Millman
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