On this episode, Debbie talks to editor and digital novelist Eli Horowitz about the virtues of collaboration. "On all these projects you get to the middle where you're saying 'What's the point?' and it's great to have someone else who will mind if this things doesn't happen."

Eli Horowitz

And remember, we can talk about making a difference, we can make a difference, or we can do both. — Debbie Millman
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