On this episode of Design matters Debbie Millman talks with Steven Heller about his new book 100 Classic Graphic Design Journals, about graphic design before it was called graphic design and about whether design magazines have a future in print. "I think the question has to be reformulated somewhat. Are there enough people out there that want to buy a magazine devoted to graphic design? Do people have passion or interest for that subject?"

And remember, we can talk about making a difference, we can make a difference, or we can do both. — Debbie Millman
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